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Prophecies of Mirza IV- Death of his Brother III

Posted in Prophecies of Mirza by crankthatskunk on May 11, 2009

Prophecies of Mirza – Death of his Brother III, Saga continues

Preface

We exposed Mirza’s prophecies for the death of his Father and Brother in details. The evidence produced by us proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Mirza concocted the dates and timing of the Prophecies well after the events. Clear cut proofs of his falsehood. These discrepancies were researched by us to show that Mirza’s prophecies were wrong on factual grounds, giving no chance for the followers of Mirza to refute the evidence produced. They are in the habits of twisting the words and using far fetched explanations for the absurdities of Mirza. But in the case of factual errors in so called revelations of Mirza there is no room left for maneuver.

Most important aspect of it is that it not only proves that Mirza lied and concocted his prophecies, but also that he attributed these lies to Allah SWT. Quadianis otherwise have to explain how Allah SWT (nauzobillah) got the actual dates of these events wrong in the ilhams Mirza claimed he received from Allah SWT.

Mirza claimed Allah SWT corrects his mistakes

Before we start presenting more evidence it is worth pointing to a very bold statement made by Mirza in his book Nur-ul-Haq.

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Mirza writes; God never leaves me with mistakes (or forgetting); even for a blink of an eye, He (SWT) also protects me from every mistake and from the satanic touch.

The Arabic words used in this quotation are “Min as-saho (mistakes) Wa Nasian (bad memory/forgetfulness)” meaning either the mistakes or forgetting something or not having accurate memory of an event. Therefore, according to this quotation, Mirza should not be forgetting something revealed to him by Allah SWT. There should be no excuse for him to forget the dates and years of different incidents in his life which he attributed to Allah SWT by claiming them as Divine revelations.

In the presence of such a bold statement it is imperative that the person who made such statement should be clear of all mistakes in the matter of faith and in his alleged revelations, and should be able to prove that his mistakes were corrected by God, immediately.

Actual Source of the years of death

Before we introduce and examine further evidence for the death of his brother, we introduce the actual source for the years of death of his brother and father. This source is responsible for the subsequent corrections carried out by the cult, in the compilation and translation of Tadkirah, the alleged divine book of Quadianis. pic 2

Ghulam Murtaza who was a competent Hakim, died in 1876, his son Ghulam Qadir was selected as his successor. Ghulam Qadir was always willing and ready to help the local administration. He received various certificates from the local administrators. He for a period worked as Superintendent of the Local District office. His only son died in his childhood. He adopted his nephew Sultan Ahmed. He (Sultan Ahmed) is considered as the elder of the family after the death of Ghulam Qadir in 1883. Mirza Sultan Ahmed started his job with the Government as Assistant Tehsildar; he now works as Extra Assistant. He is also the administrator (numberdar) of Qadian. Brother of Nizamdin, Imamdin died in 1904, at the time of the siege of Delhi, he was a Risaldar in the Hudson Horse Cavalry. His father Ghulam Mohiudin was a Tehsildar.

This paragraph from the book “Chiefs of Punjab” by Griffin provides the insight and the reasons, why all those after the events corrections were carried out by the cult. Why the compilers and translator of Tadkirah fraudulently either introduced the dates and years to the revelations of Mirza when there was no year mentioned in the actual writings. Or they changed the year of these prophecies where Mirza stupidly introduced wrong years in his so called prophecies. Proof of this from the footnote of one of the prophecy was introduced in our previous article.

Mirza and English Ilhams

Before we discuss the ilhams of November and December 1883, it is our pleasure to introduce a slightly earlier letter to Mir Abbas; this letter has an interesting paragraph. This paragraph is amazing in two senses. First it gives a hilarious example; how this alleged Prophet of “True Islam” asking a Hindu boy in Quadian to check the accuracy of Mirza’s English ilhams before they are sent to the printing press.

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Some English sentences were revealed as ilhams, I have sent them to the printing press. There is no one here who knows English, a Hindu boy of Quaidan, studying in Lahore has seen (checked their accuracy) them.

Quranic evidence suggests that Allah SWT decreed that HE has given Quran to Prophet Muhammad SAW in Arabic, his SAW own language so it would be easier for him SAW to understand it and that he SAW can easily convey the glad tidings contains therein, for the benefit of the humanity.

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But alas, this self proclaimed false prophet needed a Hindu Boy to check the ilhams for their accuracy before they are sent to the printing press.

Second very interesting side to this bizarre practice by Mirza is that why did he need someone to check the accuracy of the English revelations? Was he expecting some errors in the Word of God (nauzobillah)?

Mirza’s obsession with English Language

We displayed the evidence that Allah SWT decreed to Prophet Muhammad SAW that the Quran is revealed in his SAW own language so he SAW can convey the glad tidings to the God-conscious people.

Mirza made lofty claims about his command of Arabic, which we have every intention to test in the future, but he also was very keen to learn English language.

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It is stated by Molvi Sher Ali that Hadarat Messih-e-Maoud once said, I thought I need to learn English for the purpose of tableeq; I am confident that Allah SWT would bestow the knowledge (of English), I just have to pray for a night or two. But then I thought Molvi Muhammad Ali is engaged in (tableeq) this work, his English is praised by others, therefore, my attention was shifted from this (learning English).

It seems this alleged Prophet sub-contracted the work of preaching and spreading the messages he alleged received from his god yalesh, in English to Mohammad Ali.

But what happened, why he needed someone to check his alleged ilhams, supposed Word of Allah SWT (nauzobillah) for accuracy? Why he didn’t learn the English by praying for a night or two? Why Allah SWT didn’t teach English to Mirza after his prayers? Were his prayers turn down by Allah SWT that he has to resort to request a Hindu boy for corrections, for translation and understanding?

We have already presented evidence in our article “Mirza’s attacks on Prophet Isa As” that Mirza thanked his follower for his help in learning English and wanted his help in Hebrew language too. Mirza actually spelled out his novel way to concoct ilhams in different languages and present them as alleged Revelations from God. Mirza wanted to learn how to join the words and make little sentences. This heretic really used the concept of revelations from God as a Child’s play.

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There is a subsequent letter to the same person, Mirza writes;

We have another need; I find it difficult to recognize separate/broken words of English. I want a copy which has separate/broken words listed against the words from the book.

Once again a clear cut proof that this heretic wanted to fool the world to create English ilhams, by producing short sentences combining different words. The idiot forgot that in English grammar also plays an important part.

The result is there for all of us to observe, in the shape of woefully crafted English ilhams by Mirza. Ironically, Mirza in his efforts to claim them as divinely revealed ilhams; ended up attributing something to Allah SWT which was erroneous (nauzobillah). This thought can never cross a Muslim’s mind.

No wonder he had been asking help for the accuracy and translations of his so called English revelations, he could copy the words from the books but did not understand the meanings of all the words, never mind the grammar and construction of the sentences. He in his desperation even concocted that some of the ilhams were translated by God. What an absurd idea.

We move along to our main objective.

Death of his Brother, absurdities continue

We in our previous articles established with out shadow of any doubt that Mirza in his books claimed that his brother Ghulam Qadir died in 1887 four years after his actual death in 1883 according to the footnote in Tadkirah.

We also exposed compilers, sons of Mirza and translator of Tadkirah, Mr. Zafrullah Khan.To demonstrate that how they conspired in the compilation of Tadkirah to correct the blunders committed by Mirza on the dates of these Prophecies.

More we investigate more blunders we find in the writings of Mirza. These blunders prove without shadow of any doubts that Mirza was a liar and a fraudster, who tried to claim these prophecies years after the events. But in his stupidity he committed blunders after blunders and ruined his credibility and of those who have compiled and translated Tadkirah as the divine book containing the divine revelations to Mirza.

Brother died in 1881

After announcing his brother’s death in 1887 four years after Ghulam Qadir’s actual death, Mirza in the same book only few pages down from the first quote committed another blunder. Before we expose that blunder let’s test the credibility of “Tadkirah” the divine book again.

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Therefore, according to the compilers and translator of tadkirah, Mirza prophecies death of his brother in 1883. Our readers by now are well aware, why this year 1883 is artificially selected by the compilers of tadkirah.

Now we examine the evidence from “Nazool-ul-Masih”; above quote in tadkirah is listed as prophecy number 103;

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Once again, clear evidence of fraud by the compilers and translator of tadkirah; Mirza writes this prophecy was told in 1881 and fulfilled the next day. Dear readers, we have come full circle on the issue of death of Mirza’s brother. Mirza have written his brother’s year of death 1881 and 1887. One is two years before the actual death and the other four years after his actual death, according to the evidence displayed.

Irony for the followers of this cult is that Mirza committed these blunders in the same book; just few pages apart.

Further investigation on the death of Mirza’s brother

1- Ilham preceding the illhams for the death

We find something very interesting which shows how desperate this cult was to show and establish credibility of Mirza. They tried that all the alleged ilhams should show 1883 the year of Ghulam Qadir’s death; no matter what the actual evidence is in the writings of Mirza In tadkirah all the ilhams for the death of Ghulam Qadir are listed after following ilham.

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Mirza had this ilham at the end of (20th) November 1883; next ilham in Tadkirah is in December on the basis of a letter to Abbas dated 12 December 1883. But the ilham according to the letter were received by Mirza during the week before 12th December. Between these two sets of ilhams, the compilers of Tadkirah have squeezed all the ilhams for the death of his brother. There is only a window of few days available between these two ilhams.

Therefore, brother of Mirza should have died sometime between 20 November 1883, and first week/ start of December.1883.

Curiously in the above quotation Mirza does not think this ilham is for his brother.

Why if his brother was still alive? Especially if the Arabic ilham quoted had the word “Akhi” i.e. brother in it. Why then Mirza never thought that this ilham could be for the death of his actual brother? Even though according to the presentation in Tadkirah, his brother was still alive at the time of this ilham. It is rather odd indeed. When we looked at the original evidence we find something more interesting. The whole of the letter is not included in the tadkirah as ilham; we introduce the last portion of the letter which contains a really interesting paragraph.

2- Original evidence for above ilham

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Some part of this quote is included in the translation provided from tadkirah. We translate the remaining portion. Mirza writes;

“My principle is that we should live according to the will of Our Sustainer, whatever He (SWT) Will is better, because He (SWT) is the Dispenser of the grace/affairs. I intend to have a short visit to your town, but this desire wouldn’t be fulfill without the Will of Khuda Talla (Allah SWT). Molvi Abdul Qadir should remember his death, and try to purify his heart, I will also try. (20th November 1883).

Mirza here is advising Molvi Abdul Qadir to pray to Allah for purity of his heart and remember his death. This sentence sound very familiar indeed.

The date of this letter is 20 November 1883. There is no mention of ilhams concerning his brother in this letter. Also there is no mention that Mirza was in Amritsar at the time he writes this letter.

3-     Evidence displayed in previous Article

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We have already dealt with the fraud and deceptions by the compilers of tadkirah regarding the dates in the original writings of Mirza on the evidence reproduced. The purpose to reproduce this evidence is to completely destroy the credibility of Mirza and those who were responsible for composition and translation of tadkirah.

In this ilham Mirza said that his brother died few weeks after the ilham.

The ilhams in Tadkirah are listed in order of the dates. Next ilham quoted in tadkirah after the death of Ghulam Qadir, is the letter to Mir Abbas written on 12 December 1883, but this letter covers the period of a week  in Mirza’s own words. Therefore if we minus a week from 12 December, for the period in which Mirza received these ilhams, then we are left with a window of few days, between the ilhams before and after the ilhams for the death prophecy. His brother must have died in this period; if we go with the chronology in the Tadkirah.

December 1883 Ilham

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As it is evident, even though according to the chronology in tadkirah, Ghulam Qadir is dead, on some day between 20 November and 12 December 1883, more like before 5th of December, as explained above. But Mirza had nothing to say about his brother either about the ilhams he received for his death or his actual death, strange indeed.

Another interesting fact; an ilham which Mirza receive in the first week of December 1883 states; Allah SWT has asked Mirza to go to Amritsar. But according to the evidence repeated in this article, Mirza says he was already in Amritsar when he wrote a letter to his brother informing him of his approaching death, Ghulam Qadir died few weeks afterwards. Unfortunately for this cult according to their chronology Ghulam Qadir is already dead, while Mirza is still in Quadian.

Now we display the remaining part of this letter from the original source.

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Mirza writes; This week I received some English ilhams, about some (ilhams) I enquired from the Hindu boy but it is not satisfactory, some were revealed with translation from Allah SWT, some were in Hebrew, these (ilhams) needed research.

In the last paragraph Mirza writes

Please convey my Salam to Molvi Abdul Qadir and Khwaja Ali.

It is abundantly clear that Molvi Abdul Qadir was still alive, after the death of Ghualm Qadir according to the chronology in tadkirah.

Before we move on, we like to point out dishonesty of the compilers of Tadkirah; they left out any mention of Hindu Boy from the Tadkirah.

It also proven that the ilham which says that his brother died few weeks after Mirza wrote the letter is not correct. The evidence and time line is completely against the concoctions and lies of Mirza and the fraud and deceptions of the cult.

Died after few weeks do not fit in the equation, there was hardly few days window available, between the two batches of ilhams produced in tadkirah, before and after the alleged death of Ghulam Qadir.

After careful examination of the internal evidence it is quite obvious that Mirza did not receive any ilhams for the death of his brother between the period from 20 November 1883 and the first week of December 1883. How could it be possible for a man who is writing even the silliest things in his letters to be completely silent on such significant incident as death of his nearest and dearest brother?

It is quite obvious that this cult does not have any such evidence available to them with the dates which can absolve Mirza. Otherwise that evidence would have been proudly displayed in tadkirah and many other places. But lack of any such evidence whatsoever, tells its own story.

During the period between end of 1882 and start of 1884 Mirza regularly wrote letters to Mir Abbas, almost on fortnightly basis, a thorough search of this material produce no evidence that Mirza mentioned his brother’s death at all.

A careful look at tadkirah is enough to reveal to the readers that vast majority of the ilhams for the year 1883, were taken from the letters Mirza wrote to Mir Abbas. These ilhams contain very small, insignificant and minute matters. But during all this period there is no evidence produced in tadkirah whatsoever from this source for the death of Ghulam Qadir.

This proves beyond any shadow of doubt, that Mirza wrote all these prophetic ilhams for the death of his brother, years after the events. This is quite clear from the blunders he has committed to give wide ranging years of his brother’s death.  But surprisingly, he failed to mention this important incident to a follower whom he was writing regularly and frequently during whole of 1883.

Another funny aspect is that the Prophet who supposedly has been selected to convey the message to the Muslims (“true Islam” according to the concoctions by Mirza and the Cult) by Allah SWT, has to ask a Hindu boy to check the accuracy and translate the ilhams, then says he is not satisfied and request his follower to look at them. Even funnier is Mirza’s claim that Allah SWT (nauzobillah) has translated some of the ilhams for him.

We are entitled to ask from Quadianis;

1-     Why not disclose the ilhams in the language Mirza understands in the first place? Was Allah SWT (nauzobillah) try to impress someone here, with English?

2-     Why Allah SWT (nauzobillah) translated only some of the ilhams why not all of them?

3-     Why these ilhams contain errors? god of Mirza was also learning English, at the time of these ilhams?

4-     If so then why his god sends ilhams in English?

5-     What happened to the Islamic concept of All Knowing; All Powerful God?

Mirza raising the dead

Just to add insult to the injury, we produce another master piece from Mirza.

Mirza despite ridiculing Prophet ISA As was very keen to prove that he has been given same miracles like Isa As. We have already covered this in our previous article. We present the evidence on Mirza raising the dead; in this case, as was earlier, it is about his son Mubarak Ahmed. He made various prophecies, claims, explanations and taweels for the earlier claims which obviously proven bogus like usual, further claims to hide the embarrassment. But here we are producing a very clear evidence of his stupidity.

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Mirza writes; once I received the revelations “Oh my God please show me how you can raise the dead, and show us Your Mercy and Blessing from the heavens.” In this ilham I received the news that there may be occasions when we have to use this prayer and it would be accepted. Thus it happened once my son Mubarak Ahmed was seriously ill, everyone said he died. I got up and started to move my hand on his head while praying; he started to breath again. This ilham is also fulfilled in another way because Allah SWT has given life to thousands of spiritually dead from our hands.

This way Mirza the incredible wanted to prove that he could raise the dead, as is written in the Holy Quran for Prophet Isa As.

But Mirza made one huge blunder on this prophecy too. In the side columns he has written that this Prophetic ilham was received in 1901 but the fulfillment of this prophecy is listed as 1900. Thus Mirza is trying to say that this Prophecy was fulfilled before it was revealed to Mirza. Bravo Mirza then how this would be foretelling? Before followers of Mirza jump up again, they should consider the title Mirza has given to this incident he writes; “Prophecy 120” the word he used in Urdu is “pashgoai” meaning foretelling of an event, or Prophecy in other words.

Construction of the paragraph makes it impossible for his followers to twist it, as is their habit. The “Sultan of Pen” has written this way most of his life. But we are not complaining. It is making our job easier; he is proving himself a liar, from his own writings.

Conclusions

We have proven once again that Mirza was a liar and he committed fraud to make himself look credible to his followers. He never had any revelations for the death of his brother. He surprisingly and oddly failed to mention a single word either on the ilhams concerning his brother’s death or actual death to his follower. This is impossible if we to consider the dates written on the letters are correct and no other unsavory practice is adopted by the cult on the dates and authenticity of these letters.

There should be absolutely no doubt in anyone’s mind that Mirza wrote these alleged ilhams years after the events, no wonder he couldn’t remember exact dates or years for these momentous incidents in his life. It is very obvious that he tried to claim for his brother’s death the advice he gave to Molvi Abdul Qadir in his letters to Mir Abbass.

We tried our best to locate his letter to Ghulam Qadir, but found no traces of it in various Quadiani sources. We would be glad if someone can produce this evidence, provided its date and contents could be authenticated to belong to 1883 and not after the event forgery by the cult.

The book Nazool-ul-Messih was published after the death of Mirza, therefore, it is proven that his mistakes contained in this book were not corrected by Allah SWT until his death. This together with various other absurdities exposed and his claims which fall by the way side, shows the absurdities of  Mirza’s claims and bold pronouncements that Allah SWT corrects his mistakes and bad memory in blink of an eye. There are no better proofs needed to unmask a liar, in the light of his own writings. Undeniable internal evidence from his writings is the down fall of Mirza.

Fraud and deceptions of the compilers and translator of tadkirah are apparent; they just placed all the ilhams of Ghulam Qadir’s death conveniently in the later part of the 1883 due to their subsequent knowledge for the year and perhaps also the month of Ghulam Qadir’s death.

We have also shown that Mirza never had any divine help in learning languages as he has claimed at various places. In case of English it is quite clear he was obtaining help from whatever sources available to him at any given time, similar zeal was shown to learn Hebrew language.

Mirza after making claims that he would be taught English by Allah SWT after a prayer or two ended up summoning up help even from a Hindu boy to check and translate his alleged English ilhams, which without a shadow of a doubt he has written by using the unique ways he so clearly was eager to learn for both English and Hebrew languages.

Mirza has made his god yalesh butt of all jokes, by writing such hilarious English ilhams.

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Prophecies of Mirza III: Death of his Father

Posted in Prophecies of Mirza by crankthatskunk on January 23, 2009

 

 

Preface

 

It is reasonable to assume that a person should remember death of his nearest and dearest; especially when you claim that their death was revealed to you by The Divine. We have presented evidence that Mirza did not remember death of his brother, despite his bogus claims of divine revelations on his brother’s death. Mirza according to his concoctions wrote a letter to his brother to warn of his approaching death, 4 years after his brother’s actual death.

 

We will also continue on the theme that not only Mirza’s alleged book of divine revelations vouchsafed to him is full of factual errors, which rendered Mirza’s claims frivolous.  But also to prove that the compilers and translator of  tadkirah deliberately mislead their followers and readers at large. In the case of Zafrullah Khan he misled wider English speaking communities around the world, especially in Western countries. We have already taken care of evidence of Zafrullah’s involvement. 

 

On the preface of Tadkirah we find the evidence that Mirza son Bashir Ahmed was involved in compilation of Urdu tadkirah

 

“Tadhkirah was first published in 1935 under supervision of Hadhrat Mirza Bashir Ahmed Sahibra.”

 

Tadkirah was written in the period of Ka-Lip II another son of Mirza, therefore, it is safe to conclude that he was not only aware but also involved in commencement of this project to create a holly book for this cult.

 

When Mirza’s father died, Mirza made similar claims to have received divine revelations of his imminent death. Could he get this important incident in his life correct? Let us explore the evidence.

 

From the site Alislam.org

 

His father passed away on June 2nd, 1876. Naturally Hadhrat Ahmad (AS) became concerned over the sources of his income. God Almighty vouchsafed him the following revelation:

“Alaysa Allaho be-Kafen Abdahoo”
Is not God sufficient for His servant?
(Kitab al-Barriya, page 159)

This revelation gave him mental comfort and abundant solace. Future incidents demonstrated that God Almighty indeed assisted him in every situation, proving beyond a shadow of doubt that God was sufficient for His humble servant. These words of revelation were later carved in a stone and made into a signet ring which he wore all his life.

Upon his father’s death, the responsibility for administering the affairs of the family estate fell on the shoulders of his elder brother Mirza Ghulam Qadir. If he wanted he could have taken his share from the estate and lived a life of comfort. But whatever his brother gave him he lived on that, sometimes hand to mouth.

This was a very tough period for him. At times he had to face severe hardships in getting the bare necessities of life. Nevertheless he was always grateful for whatever he had. On occasion he would distribute his food among the poor and keep the minimum for himself.

Official date of his father’s death is 2nd June 1876 according to above source; we now explore tadkirah, the divine book compiled from alleged revelations in Mirza’s writings.

 

Evidence from Tadkirah

 

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There are  more then one revelation associated with Mirza’s father death.

 

1-      It was revealed to Mirza in a dream while he was in Lahore that his father is about to die. Mirza immediately traveled to Quadian. 

 

2-      Then on the day of his father’s death it was revealed to him that his father will die on the same day after sunset. He was also explained that it is message of condolence from Allah SWT on his father’s death. 

 

3-      As soon as it was revealed to Mirza he thought about his financial survival after his father’s death as he was totally dependent on hand outs from his father for his survival. Promptly Mirza received another revelations stating;

 

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There should be no doubt in any readers mind that Mirza must have received these revelations in Jun 1876. After all the divine book of Mirza’s revelations categorically states that these divine revelations occurred in June 1876.

 

We suppose they were little shy not to mention exact date of his father’s death, which is stated in the article on official web site produced above. We can not comprehend what stopped them from doing so, after all when you want to commit a fraud, forgery or manipulate the actual evidence then why not go all the way?

 

We come to the most crucial part of this episode, what did Mirza actually writes? We look at the evidence from Mirza’s writings. The actual evidence is produced for our readers to eliminate doubts or confusions.

 

Original evidence from Mirza’s Writings

 

First we produce evidence from Katab-ul-Bariya quoted in tadkirah;

 

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Kitab-ul-Baria was published in January 1898; as evidence suggest Mirza off course did not write which year these revelations were received by him or date/year of his father’s death in this book.

 

It is once again abundantly clear from the original evidence that compilers and translator of the tadkirah were dishonest; they inserted the year of these revelations based on their knowledge of the events.

 

From our past experience we know the book which does contains the dates of these revelations so we turn to that book. We find this evidence in Nazul-e-Messih P494/495; for our readers information this  book of signs  was written by Mirza in 1902 after  both Tarryaq-ul-Qulub and Kirab-ul-Barria were written.

 

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As we suspected Mirza did write year of this prophecy as 1874 and not 1876 as claimed in tadkirah and the article on the web site. Yet another proof that this cult has introduced dates arbitrarily and fraudulently to correct the blunders committed by Mirza. 

 

We have produced two different sources to demonstrate that this fraud was not limited to tadkirah only but articles on the official web site are guilty of the same fraud and manipulation of the real evidence.

 

 

Further evidence of Fraud by the cult

 

Unfortunately for this cult Mirza committed another blunder, he stated in Nazul-e-Messih that his father died on Saturday. On 2nd June 1876 date of his father’s demise quoted by official web site it was Friday.

 

No wonder compilers of tadkirah were little shy to write 2nd June as date of his father’s demise.

 

Just to complete the puzzle On 2nd June 1874 it was Tuesday and not Saturday as categorically written by Mirza. It is clearly demonstrated that these supposed divine revelations vouchsafed to Mirza have huge problems for this cult. Even if they argue that Mirza got the year wrong still there is the problem with the day of his father’s death too, Mirza got the day wrong too.

 

What happened to the concept that these were prophesies and revelations forewarning Mirza of eventualities in his life? What happened to the concept of divinely revealed words, did Mirza’s God have it wrong too? Problems for this cult are never ending. This is a predictable result when you want to convince people of Mirza’s credibility by deceptions, fraud and lies.

 

Conclusions

 

We have once again demonstrated that Mirza did not receive any divine revelations on the occasion of his father’s death as was the case of his brother’s death. He made up stories years after the events. His deceptions and lies are evident from the evidence displayed. There should be absolutely no doubt in any one’s mind that this man was a complete fraud. It is almost neigh impossible to imagine that some one who make such bold and outrageous claims of divine revelations get all his facts so horribly wrong on such momentous events in his life.

 

We have also demonstrated that Compilers and translator of tadkirah were guilty of deliberate innovations and fraud by deliberately inserting the dates for different ilhams based on their subsequent knowledge to make Mirza look credible.

 

They purposefully and deliberately ignored the evidence in the original writings of Mirza.

 

They inserted dates when no such dates existed in the original quoted by them, and they failed to recognize the dates did mentioned by Mirza.

 

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Propecies of Mirza II- Death of his Brother II

Posted in Prophecies of Mirza by crankthatskunk on December 28, 2008

Prophecies of Mirza – Death of his Brother II


 

Introduction

We have dealt this issue in our previous article according to evidence from Urdu tadkirah now let’s have a look at its English version. This version does contain same deliberate misrepresentations of the facts; dishonest claims based on invention rather then truthful scholarly enquiry and examination of the original evidence.

Preface of English Tadkirah


Preface of the English Tadkirah states the following;

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According to the preface Zafrullah Khan rendered Tadkirah into English. We introduce selected portions from the foreword by Zafrullah Khan.

Foreword from English Tadkirah


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It is demonstratively apparent that Zafrullah is making suggestions to the readers that according to him, his English rendering of the tadkirah contains dreams, vision and verbal revelations vouchsafed to Mirza or in other words he is categorically claiming that these are divine revelations from Allah.

Zafrullah in his foreword further wrote;

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Zafrullah is keen to present to the readers that Mirza received divine revelations not due to his righteousness or his exalted status. Mirza’s revelations were not upsurge of his mind. Mirza received it as a bounty from God. Zafrullah’s intention is to convince his Western readers that these revelations are not just the result of Mirza’s state of mind but result of communication with God.

He gave examples from Quran, which are off course only applicable to the revelations received by Prophet Muhammad SAW. Zafrullah’s purpose to quote Quranic verses here is to imply that like Prophet Muhammad SAW, Mirza too received pure revelations (nauzobillah) from Allah SWT.

Zafrullah then gave example of another Verse of Quran to imply it again that revelation is bounty from Allah SWT and His SWT words descend on whosoever He SWT pleases. These are categorical statements that Mirza allegedly received divine revelations like Prophet Muhammad SAW and other True Prophets of Allah SWT.

We turn our attention to the evidence from tadkirah which is the main purpose of our current and previous Article on this subject.

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In English Tadkirah, the Urdu text from Urdu version displayed first then the translation by Zafrullah Khan is given. At the end of the translation Zafrullah Khan has given reference to the original writings of these alleged revelations, these references are also given in Urdu tadkirah.

Controversy on Prophecies continues


We move to the second part of this prophecy; in our earlier article we have already displayed proofs from pages 595 and 596 of Nazul-ul-Massih; according to Mirza 1887 is the year of the prophecy for the death of his brother. We found following revelation in English Tadkirah on the death of Mirza’s brother, this revelations falsely state 1883 as year of Ghulam-e-Qadir’s death. Once again desperation of this cult is evident to prove Mirza’s prophesy correct.

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Lets turn to the evidence from the source of this particular alleged revelations. In Taryaq-ul-Qulub, unlike Nazul-ul-Messih there are no dates or years given for the prophecies. In Taryaq-ul-Qulub incident number 17 narrate the sickness of Ghulam Qadir. The text is similar to the text in Nazul-e-Messih. That evidence is displayed in our previous article. Incident number 18 relates to the death of Ghulam Qadir.

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This evidence from the original writings of Mirza in Taryaq-ul-Qulub states absolutely no date or year of this prophecy unlike Nazul-ul-Messih which categorically states it as 1887.

Dishonesty of the compilers of tadkirah is quite apparent they purposefully inserted the year of 1883 to make Mirza look credible; while deliberately ignoring the evidence from Nazul-e-Messih which state the year of this prophecy as 1887. English tadkirah is not exempt from this invention and downright fraudulent presentation of Mirza’s writings.

Some facts about Taryaq-ul-Qulub

Writing and publications of this book is surrounded by controversies, which may be subject of a future article but for the purpose of this article we will restrict ourselves to the point in discussion. First of all the online copy of this book, the title page does not give any date/year of its publications. Long details and solemn testimonies are given in the introduction of the Volume 15. According to this introduction Taryaq-ul-Qulub;

- By December 1899 it was completed.

-  It was published in 1902.

We will restrict our comments for the time being to Quadiani’s claims that this book was completed in 1899, sixteen years after the death of Ghulam Qadir in 1883 according to the book on the history of Punjab; evidence displayed in our previous article on this topic; twelve years after Mirza’s Prophecy according to Nazul-e-Messih.

Credibility of Zafrullah Khan

Quadianis hold Zafrullah Khan in great respect and claim that he was amongst the most intelligent and knowledgeable Scholar of their cult. We are restricting our comments to this topic; commenting on the basis of the evidence available and displayed.

We like to draw readers’ attention to some glaring facts which indicate that Zafrullah Khan was neither entirely truthful or a credible person.

1- For first Prophecy, apart from Urdu tadkirah as a sound scholar he must have checked the original source of that prophecy.

2- He should have found that Mirza categorically written he received this revelation in 1871 and not in 1868 as falsely claimed in Urdu Tadkirah; reproduced and repeated in English rendering.

3-  He should have checked that according to Mirza he received revelations on his brothers death in 1887 and not in 1883 as second revelation in English Tadkirah quoted. He surely could not have missed it. It is the next Prophecy in Nazul-e-Messih.

4- He must have checked the source document in Taryaq-ul-Qulub; therefore he was aware that this book does not show any year of this prophecy.

Taryaq-ul-Qulub and Nazul-ul-Messih

There is one crucial evidence available in the internal record, as we have mentioned above, there were apparent problems on the dates of completion, printing and publication of Taryaq-ul-Qulub.

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137 Pages of this edition one were written by 5th December 1899. And that time he (Mirza) was writing further. Dates of other Editions are listed above. Thus, internal evidence from Taryaq-ul-Qulub indicates that this book was completed by December 1899. At the time of its publication in 1902; he (Mirza) only wrote the last page, supplement number 3 on 25th October 1902. He (Mirza) intended to write more than 100 signs but during this period he (Mirza) started to write Nazul-e-Messih, therefore, in the last lines of supplement number 3 he (Mirza) writes;

“It should be made clear that the part of the book which contains prophecies was not published completely, because the book Nazul-e-Messih made it redundant, which has more than 150 Prophecies, whatever, Khuda willed happen.”

Display of this evidence serves two purpose; first to show to the readers that there were problems and controversies surrounding these books, which even Mirza was well aware of, secondly the fact that Mirza has written Nazul-e-Messih after Taryaq-ul-Qulub.

Not to mention that according to internal evidence Mirza had until 25th October 1902 to make whatever changes he wanted to make before Taryaq-ul-Qulub publication. Another interesting fact pointed out by Mirza is that Prophesies section in Taryaq-ul-Qulub was not completed.

Fact remains even though Mirza didn’t write any dates/years in Taryaq-ul-Qulub of these particular prophecies but he indeed write the dates in Nazul-e-Messih which he has written later according to his own admission. It establishes without shadow of any doubt that Taryaq-ul-Qulub was not correcting Nazul-e-Messih; it was indeed the other way.

Conclusion

 

We have once again demonstrated that not only work by Zafrullah is very suspect but also that he has deliberately ignored glaring evidence from the originals, which indicated that the dates given in tadkirah are missing in the case of Taryaq-ul-Qulub and are incorrect in the case of Nazul-e-Messih.

It is very crucial for prophecies, which by nature rely solely on the timing, when it was foretold and time of its fulfillment.

Instead of examining and presenting the original evidence and being truthful to its readers, Zafrullah has tried to add weight to the evidence for the benefit of the English readers in the Foreword of English Tadkirah; he has introduced Quranic verses to deceptively support this cult’s claim that somehow Mirza was recipient of divine revelations.

Zafrullah’s intentions are very clear; he has given clear indications that his intended audience is in Western countries. He definitely wanted to give the impression albeit falsely to the Western world that Mirza is credible and should be accepted as an alleged Prophet.

 

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Prophecies of Mirza I- Death of his Brother I

Posted in Prophecies of Mirza by crankthatskunk on December 13, 2008

Preface

 

Quadianis make claims that Mirza’s prophecies become true. Claiming that these prophecies are some how proofs of his claims. It is therefore, necessary to start looking at these prophecies in details and present to the readers’ whole spectrum of facts regarding various prophesies.

Approach

 

To look at Mirza writings, his claims and his prophecies we intend to adopt an internationally recognized approach commonly used by most scholars for research purposes.

1- To analyse someone’s writings and to weigh up one’s claim first thing we need to look at is the internal evidence, i.e. how credible is the evidence produced by the writer and claimant.

 2- To check the references provided for their accuracy and relevance.

 3- To check if there exists any other collaborating evidence. If there is external evidence how credible and sound is that evidence.

 4- Any other factors which could have contributed to the outcome of the Prophecy claimed by the claimant.

Claims by Mirza; Prophecy Number 91

1- Quote from Tadkirah

The book of Tadkirah according to Quadianis is a book of Mirza’s alleged wahi and his dreams, which they also equate to his alleged wahi.

Quadianis try to present this book equal to The Quran for their Jamat. Considering the importance attached to this book by the Quadianis and the fact that this is presented as proof of Mirza’s wahi, this book should be free of errors and manipulations of any kind.

After all according to Quadianis it is a book of alleged Allah’s revelations to Mirza.

Let there be no doubts in the mind of the readers, this book states on its title “Tadkira, Wahi Muqadas” i.e. the divine revelations. Therefore, the contents of this book should pass very stringent tests on its reliability, credibility and accuracy.

On page 7 of on line Urdu addition of this book, we find following;

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1868 (near about)

 “Once in my dream I saw that my Brother Ghulam-e-Qadir is seriously ill. I told this dream to many people. After this dream he becomes seriously ill.

Then I started to pray for him; I once again saw in my dream that a deceased elder from my family is calling him, such dream indicate his approaching death. After this (dream) his illness got worse, he became like a skeleton. I become very sad and I turned towards Allah for his health. When I prayed; after few days I saw in a dream that he was walking in the house with out any support. Afterwards he attained full health and lived for another 15 years after this incident. ”

Tadkirah state that this dream is written in “nazool-e-Messiah” therefore, we introduce the original evidence here. We find this entry on page 595.

2- Quote from Nazool-e- Masih

 

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This Books give this prophecy No 91; it also gives 1871 year of the prophecy and 1872 as year for the fulfillment of this prophecy. This page also state that these prophecy was made 31 years ago and was fulfilled 30 years ago before Mirza wrote this book Nazool-e-Masih.

Discrepancies exposed

 

Therefore, we find first dishonesty by the compilers of “Tadkirah”. They deliberately have written 1868 for this prophecy. There is absolutely no doubt that this is a deliberate ploy by the Compilers.

1- First of all Mirza has gone to great length to state the dates for when it was prophesied and when it was fulfilled.

2- There are absolutely no reasons for the compilers to misread the dates.

3- The reason for this dishonest quotation is displayed as a footnote in tadkirah. We produce that footnote before proceeding further.

 

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 ”Mirza Ghulam-e-Qadir died in 1883 (History of Aristocrats of Punjab) Compiler(s).”

 

4- It is abundantly clear that the compilers have deliberately change the dates and to cover up their track introduced “near about” in the bracket. Mirza was crystal clear that he saw this dream in 1871.

5- There should be no doubt in any readers mind that this

year is mentioned in Tadkirah to prop up Mirza’s credibility. To reconcile the death of Mirza Ghulam-e- Qadir in 1883 to exactly 15 years after the prophecy, as written by Mirza.

6- There is another very clear discrepancy in the quotation of Tadkirh; it does not contain the full text of Mirza’s writings. The reasons given by Mirza for his prayers are omitted by the compilers.

Analysis of the Prophecy No 91

Fact 1: According to internal evidence available it is very clear that this book is written well after the event, 31 years to be precise in Mirza’s own words.

Fact2: According to Mirza his brother got sick in 1872.

Fact 3: Mirza’s brother lived for another 11 years after his illness according to the foot note in Tadkirah and not 15 years as Mirza claimed.

Fact 4: Mirza wrote that there are many witnesses to this sign, but he has failed to introduce any evidence or names of these witnesses. In other words he just wants every one to believe him and his claims, without an iota of evidence.

The discrepancies are not limited to these absurdities.

 

Claim by Mirza; Prophecy Number 92

 There is a second part of this prophecy which relate to the period near the death of Ghulam-e-Qadir.

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“15 years after the above incident (Prophecy 91 in1871) I was in Amritsar at the time near to the death of my brother; I saw a dream in (Amritsar) that definitely bowl of his life is full (he is nearing his death). I told this dream to Hakim Muhammad Sharif Amritsari. I also wrote a letter to my brother that he should be prepared for hereafter in his last days. He informed the family about this letter. He died few weeks after this (incident).”

There is a footnote at the bottom of page 595 (219) which state the followingIn Qadian there are many witnesses still alive for this sign.”

Analysis of the Second Prophecy 92

Fact 1: Mirza wrote that this Prophecy was made in 1887.

Fact 2: Compilers of Tadkirah wrote that Mirza Ghulam-e-Qadir died in 1883 according to the history book quoted by the compilers.

Fact 3: Mirza is claiming that his Brother died in 1887, few weeks after the prophecy. It could be 1888 if this prophecy was made at the end of 1887. But without having any information for the month in which this prophecy was made, we can not determine this with certainty. We can say with certainty though that he should have died in 1887according to Mirza.

Fact 4: Mirza wrote that this prophecy relate to 1887 when the time of Ghulam-e-Qadir’s death was near. Amazingly according to Jamat’s own evidence Ghulam-e-Qadir died in 1883. Therefore, according to the evidence Mirza is claiming that he saw this dream 4 years after the death of Mirza’s brother.

Fact 5: Mirza claimed that he has told this dream to Hakim Muhammad Sharif Amritsari, but we find no evidence of this claim. No independent confirmation by Sharif is included in the book of Tadkirah. We would be very much interested if any such evidence can be produced, which is identifiable and independently verifiable. It has to be evidence related to the period before Ghulam-e-Qadir’s death and not after the event attestation, like we find in this case.

Nevertheless problem is grave if he told Sharif of his brother death in 1887 it will still be 4 years after the death of Ghulam-e-Qadir according to Mirza’s own writings. Therefore, if evidence is produced by Sharif, it will not provide validity for Mirza’s claims rather will dispute the claim on factual grounds.

Fact 6: At the bottom, Mirza claims that he also wrote a letter to his brother that he should pay attention to the affairs of hereafter. According to Mirza his brother died with in few weeks of receiving the letter. Once again there is no evidence of this letter. Not to mention how his brother could have received this letter 4 years after his death is beyond comprehension. But probably this Jamat does not pay attention to such trivial matters.

Fact 7: According to date on the cover this book “Nazool-e-Massih was published in August 1909 more than a year after Mirza’s death.

Conclusions

We have provided proofs from the internal evidence that this prophecy fails all the internal tests for its accuracy and validity. The writer could not even get his facts right, let alone providing any external evidence or witness to such momentous events in his life, i.e. death of his brother.

It is also evident that this book is written well after the events; 31 years according to the admission by the writer himself, therefore, it is after the event narration, which has absolutely no probate value to judge the accuracy of the prophecy. The whole purpose of the Prophecy by nature is that it has to be in advance of the event. There should be credible independent evidence and witnesses available for the accuracy of its narrative, historically corrective description; historical and credible independent evidence for its fulfillment.

We also have exposed deliberate attempts by the compilers of this book “Tadkirah” to engineer the date of the first Prophecy to make this prophecy credible to the readers. In doing so they have deliberately ignored very clearly written dates of the Prophecy by the author. In our opinion no serious scholar could miss such glaring internal evidence and claim that his work is sound.

We have demonstrated that this could not be Divine Revelations from Allah, due to the errors it contains. Otherwise, Jamat has to admit they will be falsely attributing a very amateurish and erroneous work to Allah (SWT).

There is clear evidence of tempering of the evidence by the Compilers to twist the facts in the original writings of Mirza.

 

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